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• 1 revgeorge // Apr 8, 2008 at 7:55 am

  Matthew, once again I’d have to chose: None of the above. Sorry.

• 2 korg20000bc // Apr 8, 2008 at 8:05 am

  Well, let us know who!

  You really wouldn’t want Rowling to write about ANY of the characters on the list?

  Hard to please, you are.

• 3 Chris // Apr 8, 2008 at 8:18 am

  I’d have to go with Severus Snape. Snape is such a multi-layered character, I’d love to hear his history through his point of view. This would surely give a different spin on the events we already know about, and would fill out his backstory and motivations more.

• 4 korg20000bc // Apr 8, 2008 at 8:23 am

  I thought about putting Snape on the list but we found out about his main motivations in Deathly Hallows.

  And I didn’t consider him a secondary character… up until Deathly Hallows where he drops out of the scope for much of the story.

• 5 revgeorge // Apr 8, 2008 at 9:00 am

  Okay, I put down Dudley. It’d be a boring story but I’m sure Jo could write it well. But there’s whole loads of other characters to write about that I would find more interesting. Lily Evans is definitely not one of them, though.

  Actually, I’d like to see some stories about the Slytherins. Jo’s always going on about how not all of them are so bad, well, show us why!

  Hannah Abbott might be another good character to write about. She’s perceptive, neurotic, & has family members killed by Voldemort. She apparently is good enough at things to have been made a prefect. Plus, it might be interesting to see how her romance with Neville develops.

  Of course, the adventures of James Potter the second or Albus Severus would be nice, too. It’d be like the story of Harry but with a loving, intact family & no one trying to kill you every other day. Probably pretty boring, though.

• 6 Victoria // Apr 8, 2008 at 9:37 am

  Godric Gryffindor !! I want to know more about the founding and the quarrels between the founders and especially what times where like before Hogwarts existed

• 7 Travis Prinzi // Apr 8, 2008 at 12:19 pm

  Great discussion-starter. I went with Lily, who is one of the most intriguing characters to me. I was torn between Gryffindor and Lily, but I went with Lily for a few reasons: 1. I’m working on the chapter on gender right now. 2. We didn’t get anywhere near enough material on Ginny, and I think Lily and Ginny have some similarities, except that Lily’s probably an even stronger female character than Ginny. 3. I want to know how she graciously, firmly, and effectively dealt with an arrogant git like James.

• 8 Eeyore // Apr 8, 2008 at 2:17 pm

  Add why she dealt with James at all, actually. I did pick Lily, but I would rather read more about Severus Snape, as written by Rowling, and not all the fan fics that are out there. But the other secondary character that would make for interesting reading is Luna. What was her mother working on when the spell went wrong and she died? What would it be like in the Lovegood household, with Luna being so honest and open to new ideas, and her father being so full of outlandish theories. I just think that could be a very fun story, but one that would be full of insights into the mind of a very sweet and pure soul.

  Pat

• 9 La Shawn // Apr 8, 2008 at 5:10 pm

  More about Snape, the most intriguing character in the whole series, all the way.

• 10 korg20000bc // Apr 8, 2008 at 5:30 pm

  So all you Snapies consider him a secondary character? I thought him a main. I don’t know if Rowling wanted him to be one though.

• 11 reyhan // Apr 8, 2008 at 7:03 pm

  Grindelwald, for me.

  Not so much the megalomaniacal would-be world conquerer, nor the enemy that Dumbledore defeated, but the golden haired thief who stole the Elder Wand, the frail man who faced his death at Voldemort’s hands with a smile, the boy who stole Dumbledore’s heart.

  A much more interesting villain, we agreed. Someone worth reading about.

• 12 revgeorge // Apr 8, 2008 at 7:05 pm

  If Jo made one mistake it was trying to shove Snape back in his closet.

• 13 revgeorge // Apr 8, 2008 at 7:09 pm

  Reyhan,

  I wouldn’t necessarily want to read about him, but Grindelwald is a much more satisfactory villain than LV. Even though we hear of him once in SS & then get glimpses of him in DH, he comes off much more human & therefore much more dangerous as a villain than LV, whom we always hear about but never develops beyond a cardboard cutout, despite some of his background being revealed in HBP.

  But here’s a question about Grindelwald that might be interesting to have answered. Did he know of Dumbledore’s infatuation with him & what was his reaction if he did?

• 14 librarylily // Apr 8, 2008 at 8:23 pm

  I went with Lily, of course–she’s one of my favorite characters, secondary or no. But my next choice from the poll list would have been Molly. I’d like to hear about her girlhood, her earlier family life, and the powerful magic that beat Bellatrix (and passed on to her children, with Arthur’s–he was no wimp either). Surely that strength revealed itself in many ways throughout her life.

  Luna also would have been an interesting one. As with Grindelwald. But nobody wants to hear more about James? Aww. I think we haven’t gotten enough James either–arrogant he was, as a teen at least, but he deserved Lily (the only other option is to believe that she went quite blind to his faulty character in marrying him.) And he saw right through dark magic; and it didn’t tempt him, which is interesting considering just how arrogant he was as a kid. I’d like to know what helped him “grow out of it”. Was it almost exclusively Lily, as with Snape? Or was there more to the James story?

• 15 Travis Prinzi // Apr 8, 2008 at 9:44 pm

  Did he know of Dumbledore’s infatuation with him & what was his reaction if he did?

  I’ve wondered that, too, revgeorge. If we take Rowling’s commentary on Dumbledore as a given, the next question is: was Grindelwald also gay? And if not, did he recognize Dumbledore’s infatuation? I think that if Grindelwald were not gay and recognized it, he would have manipulated it. My guess is that even Grindelwald’s closest friends were means to an end for him. Dumbledore was a powerful ally.

• 16 Travis Prinzi // Apr 8, 2008 at 9:47 pm

  librarylily, I’m with you on the James issue. I think what we have with James is a typical, wealthy white man who doesn’t recognize his own arrogance and privilege…until Lily knocks him down several hundred pegs and teaches him how to be a human being. But the fact that James was willing to listen, be corrected, learn, etc…that’s the key, and that’s why I’m also interested in learning more about James. I chose Lily because I figured if you get her, you get them both

• 17 revgeorge // Apr 8, 2008 at 9:52 pm

  Travis,

  I’m not taking Rowling’s comments on Dumbledore as a given, but not to bring up that old argument. But still if that’s what she’s going with, then I think it’s a pretty pertinent question. I would tend to suspect that even if Grindelwald was gay (we have about as much textual evidence for that as we do for DD) & even if he reciprocated the feelings of DD, I’d still think his overwhelming motivations would be to himself & his goals. As the old saying goes, love is love, but business or world domination is business or world domination.

• 18 reyhan // Apr 8, 2008 at 10:16 pm

  revgeorge, you don’t want to go there.

  Travis, why? The person you’re talking about is Voldemort, as we saw with his interactions with Slughorn and Hepzibah Smith. The little we know about Grindelwald makes him out to be quite a different kind of person. Not a schemer and a plotter, but rather a risk taker who goes openly for what he wants.

  Ask yourself what attracted Dumbledore.

  I have tried to put the pieces of the puzzle together in the past and concluded that what Dumbledore found to love in Harry was similar to what he found to love in Grindelwald. And Harry is not manipulative. Quite the opposite. He is honest and brave and courageous to the point of fool hardiness. He is very loyal to his friends. So I would imagine that Grindelwald had some of that in him as well, along with the dark streak which made him want power, as Harry did not.

• 19 revgeorge // Apr 8, 2008 at 10:55 pm

  I had a comment but I don’t think it went through & when I tried to enter it again the site tells me it’s a duplicate comment. Don’t know what’s up with that. Before responding I’ll wait & see if that comment ever shows up.

• 20 korg20000bc // Apr 9, 2008 at 6:33 am

  I went for Godric Gryffindor. I am very interested in the founding of Hogwarts.

  I would also like to hear more about Molly. Its easy to pigeon-hole her as a frazzled mother of five but it was great to see how easily she destroyed Bellatrix. She’s a housewife/ mother because she has chosen that role- not because her skills as a warrior were less than adequate. Bravo! In one of Christopher Stasheff’s books a certain leader selects only unmarried and childless men as his fighting force. One man becomes a father and he is “promoted to parenthood.” A refreshing take on that.

  Grindlewald, also, is interesting. He certainly doesn’t seem like a Dark Wizard in Rowling’s depiction of him in DH. He seems like a likable and dashing character who mocks his enemies rather than destroy them like a dark wizard would.

  Travis,
  That view of James seems very chiche to me - arrogant, wealthy white man. What I saw was a vain youth who reveled in his own skill and thought everyone else should too. To me, its a huge stretch to force him into a comment about socio-economic status and race-relations. Maybe I read you wrong. Please correct me.

• 21 Rollin // Apr 9, 2008 at 6:54 am

  Travis, I think Lily would be interested. When she was growing up, and finding her powers. And her sister’s jealousy when they grew up.

• 22 loobyjooby // Apr 9, 2008 at 10:54 am

  I think a Slytherin would be good, as their beliefs are so very different, as are their beliefs, ambitions and actions. And as for James, he did what he thought would make him ‘COOL’.

• 23 reyhan // Apr 9, 2008 at 9:35 pm

  James was just an ordinary, handsome, carelessly callous privileged young man who happened to earn the love of a rather extraordinary young woman.

  Her extraordinariness is attested to by several people, including Slughorn (who rather specialized in extraordinary people), Snape (in whose grim heart she kindled a love that he carried to his death) and Remus Lupin, who explained that she had the gift of being able to see things in people which no one else could see.

  If it weren’t for Lily, who loved him, and Snape, who hated him, James would have been no more than a name on a dusty trophy in a trophy case.

• 24 josephinabeena // Apr 10, 2008 at 10:40 pm

  I think a story that would encompass the relationships between Lily, Snape, and James would be fascinating.

  We saw some of the relationship between Snape and Lily in DH and the kind of relationship Snape had with James and his friends.
  As a student, James doesn’t seem like the type of person that Lily would be drawn to, but as we have seen in the entire HP series, people can change and grow quite a bit. I would be very interested to learn what events either drew her or pushed her to James.

  And we really must learn more about Snape. Yes, he turned out to be a major character, but there is still so much we don’t know or understand about him. Please forgive me for this comparison, but it would be kind of like Anakin Skywalker in the prequel to Star Wars. Here’s this really bad guy (Darth Vader) that everyone hates. Then, when we learn his back story, it is easier to understand his motivation for many of his actions.

• 25 reyhan // Apr 10, 2008 at 11:13 pm

  Josephinabeena,

  Actually, I never found Lucas’ explanation of Anakin Skywalker’s conversion to the Dark Side particularly convincing. There are several reasons for this.

  First, the stated motivation is weak. Anakin is traumatized by the death of his mother, and is afraid of losing Padme as well. So he turns to Senator Palpatine / Darth Sidious who promises him power over death. Eased along by already having slaughtered a whole village full of Tusken Raiders, his growing resentment over not being accorded full-Jedi Master status, and undergoing some kind of epiphany during the murder of Mace Windu, he embraces the Dark Side and starts offing people. His first act is killing all the children at Jedi Elementary.

  It just doesn’t work. His motivation is at the same time overdetermined (does he become evil because of affronted pride or terror at losing a loved one - unlikely that both things could be true in the same person) and underdetermined (killing the Tusken Raider children out of anguish and rage is somewhat comprehensible, althouth there is no lead-in; killing all the children at Jedi Elementary just because he’s got a new boss is not).

  And finally, there is no way I can imagine Hayden Christensen evolving into James Earl Jones. It’s not only that Jones is older and darker of complexion and stouter of body. There is a complete gap between the authority that each brings to their craft. Christensen is at best a petulant boy. Jones captures the full menace of the man in the dark armour.

  I think that the blame can be equally divided between the writing and the casting. A gifted, fatherless boy can turn to evil out of his fear of death (we need look no further than Tom Riddle), but that requires a far higher caliber of writing than Lucas is capable of. And an actor can show the transformation of a young man from an idealistic innocent to a murderous thug (see Al Pacino in the Godfather). But Lucas is no Rowling, and Christensen is no Pacino. No blame to either, Pacino and Rowling both excel in their fields, but it obviously requires that degree of talent to tell this particular tale convincingly.

• 26 revgeorge // Apr 10, 2008 at 11:25 pm

  reyhan,

  Kind of a testament to the notion that Lucas never should have made the second set of movies. Too much information really spoils the story, or at least the story that was more enduring & well defined, namely the first trilogy. Personally, all I ever liked about the newer movies was Darth Maul. He was cool, in a menacing, evil way, of course.

• 27 reyhan // Apr 11, 2008 at 12:09 am

  revgeorge,

  I kind of liked the way the Yoda-puppet was flung around. Reminded me of Saruman and Gandalf in their battle-of-the-old-men-in-long-robes-flinging-each-other-off-the-wall at Orthanc.

  I actually think the second set of movies could have been cool. But it did need better writing, and better casting. I don’t think any of the acting was convincing. That could have been due to the writing, of course. I’m reminded of Harrison Ford’s comment to Lucas during the filming of the first movie:

  “George, you can type this s&@*, but you can’t say it!”

• 28 revgeorge // Apr 11, 2008 at 12:44 am

  Well, I’m glad I didn’t make it far enough into the prequels to see Yoda thrown around like Gandalf, since I didn’t really like that part of FOTR.

  I’d totally forgotten about Harrison Ford’s quote about Lucas’ writing. I can’t remember how they handled it in the first series. Did Lucas’ writing get better or were the actors simply good enough to work around it?

• 29 korg20000bc // Apr 11, 2008 at 3:14 am

  reyhan,
  I despised the 3 prequal Star Wars movies and Would rather they did not exist. Hayden Christiansen just seems like a petulant boy and he has no presence. So unconvincing and without any menace. But James Earl Jones only provided the voice. It was Davis Prowse who’s intimidating physical precence coupled with Jones’ amazing voice made the Darth Vader package so grand. Star Wars was filmed with Prowse not even knowing that he was going to be overdubbed and got a big shock at the relese, apparently.

  Apparently Liam Neeson also had a verbal set to with Lucas over Episode1. And Han Solo’s great line in Empire in response to Leia’s “I love you”- “I know” was changed from Lucas’ writing by the director at the last moment. Originally, it was a lame “I love you”… “I love you too.”

• 30 Eeyore // Apr 11, 2008 at 3:15 am

  Some of the actors were good enough to work around it. I think the writing was much worse. I loved the original three and really disliked the second three. So much so that I’ve only watched them once. More than enough. I kept wanting to smack Christensen and tell him to stop whining and get over it. He was nothing more than a spoiled brat–and not the sort that would turn into Darth Vader. Then there was Natalie Portman who was another piece of poor casting, IMO. Some of the others were good, but not there enough.

  reyhan, I think you pretty much summed up my other complaints about the later trilogy. I do have to agree with revgeorge–that scene was one that I just didn’t like with Gandalf getting thrown around. But I did like many of the other parts of the LOTR movies. I’m not such a purist when it comes to the LOTR books, so perhaps that’s why.

  Pat

• 31 reyhan // Apr 11, 2008 at 7:25 am

  Guys (and Pat),

  I was being sarcastic about the Gandalf/Saruman scene. And by extension, about the Yoda-puppet.

  Clearer I should be.

• 32 reyhan // Apr 11, 2008 at 8:48 am

  Matthew,

  I knew that Prowse had been the “body”; I didn’t realize that he hadn’t realized that he wouldn’t be the “voice”. In any case, I think that just about any 6′4″ actor could have filled the black armour. It took the deep, rich and menacing voice of Jones to bring Darth Vader to life.

  But since we’re on the topic of the many actors who’ve portrayed Vader, did you catch the substitution of Christensen’s figure (over Sebastian Shaw’s) as the ghost of Anakin Skywalker in Return of the Jedi? I’ve got mixed feelings about that. On the one hand, I think it’s appropriate that Anakin Skywalker should have the same face across the series. On the other hand, it makes me uneasy about how technology can so easily re-write history.

• 33 korg20000bc // Apr 11, 2008 at 7:45 pm

  reyhan,
  I really disliked all of the changes to the special editions. Change for change’s sake only.

  Christensen replacing Shaw at the end of Return of the Jedi only sends the message that if you use the dark side of the force you become young again on the other side of death, if you follow the light path- old and decrepit. Thanks Lucas for that profundity.

• 34 revgeorge // Apr 11, 2008 at 8:08 pm

  Yeah, I don’t see Alec Guiness replaced with whoever played Obi-Wan in the prequels. And Yoda, I’m sure he probably looked like Elmo in his youth. Why not put in his younger self? Lucas just botched it with that decision to replace Shaw with Christensen.

  This is what happens when directors go back & fool around with the movies. Very rarely does it turn out good, like the Blade Runner director’s cut. More often, it’s a mish mash or just plain silly, & all it does is offend long time fans. Get over yourself, Lucas! It’s not all about your vision.

  But not that I have any strong feelings on the matter.

• 35 korg20000bc // Apr 11, 2008 at 8:15 pm

  Young Yoda = Elmo! I laugh.

  Bringing it back to Rowling a little… Do you ever think Rowling will revise her work? Tolkien did several time.

• 36 josephinabeena // Apr 11, 2008 at 8:27 pm

  reyhan,

  While I do agree with you somewhat about the writing and portrayals in the prequel movies, what I am directing my attention to is how the actual character of Anakin/Darth Vader mirrors Snape.

  In Phantom Menace, Anakin is a generally good kid with good motivation. We do see, through the pod race, that he does have a lot of self confidence. As for Snape, he is shown as a boy who is humiliated by his own appearance. Both of these feelings are at the opposite ends of the spectrum of pride.

  We then see Anakin has grown up. His pride has developed. He is on the edge of arrogance. Palpatine can see that arrogance and feeds it. As Snape has grown, his mortification grows through the eyes of James and his friends and his depression is fed by the disapproval of Lily. The combination of his censure from the Gryffindor crowd and acceptance from the Slytherins, turns Snape onto a path that he may not have taken, had outside influences been different. That Snape has been driven on to a particular path by strong outside influences, is very similar to the outside influences that led Anakin onto his path.

  Death of a loved one have brought both of these characters to a defining moment. For Anakin, the death of his mother pushed him over the precipice. I believe that was the moment that he really started down the dark path and would not be able to return from it. For Snape, when the death of Lily occured, he had 2 things that Anakin did not. First, he had the definitive foreknowledge that Voldemort had marked her and the Potters for death. This gave him the opportunity to try to alter events and attempt to stop he r murder. Although Anakin had his dreams, he did not know that they were actually occurring; he only suspected. Second, Snape had Dumbledore. At the moment that Snape knew he had failed, Dumbledore pulled him back from the edge and allowed him to begin on a completely different path. When Anakin knew he had failed, there was no one.

  I absolutely agree with you that Rowling is a master at her craft. I believe that one of the aspects of her writing that enhances her mastery is how her stories are character driven. I think that she would be able to tell the story of Snape as exquisitely as she told Harry’s story. Maybe Lucas should have given her a call!

• 37 revgeorge // Apr 11, 2008 at 8:34 pm

  Did Tolkien revise LOTR & The Hobbit after they were actually published? Hadn’t heard that before.

  I don’t think Rowling will actually rewrite the novels as they stand. I think her revisions will come through her Scottish book, if she ever gets it written. One could argue, & boy have we already argued over this, that her statements in the press are somewhat revisionist.

• 38 josephinabeena // Apr 11, 2008 at 8:40 pm

  korg200000bc,

  I completely agree with you about the Star Wars “special editions.” What a load of c*#@! I bought them on DVD only because the set I bought came with the “Bonus Theatrical Version!” which are the only ones I watch anyway.

  As for Jo revising her work, I hope not. It’s perfect as it is. I do hope that at some point, she will revisit the wizarding world with stories about new characters.

  Also, I just read my last post. Hope I didn’t offend anyone with my soapbox speech! I’m new to this, but I’m having lots of fun!

• 39 korg20000bc // Apr 11, 2008 at 11:21 pm

  revgeorge,
  In the “note on the text” portion of the Harper Collins Editon of LOTR it states that Tolkien made a few small corrections on the 1955 publication and did his first revision that was published in 1965. He did further revisions in 1966. Since 1974 Christopher Tolkien has also provided corrections.

  josephinabeena,
  I bought the dvd’s for exacty the same reason!

• 40 Dave the Longwinded // Apr 12, 2008 at 12:43 pm

  Reyhan, I had the exact same reaction to Anakin’s “conversion” in Revenge of the Sith. George Lucas is a colossally bad writer on every level.

  As for “the man in the black armor” comment, Prowse should get at least some props. Even at 6′4″ and covered from head-to-toe, an actor still has to find a way to emote. And James Earl Jones’s voiceover is masterful because he manages to fit the voiceacting to the physical acting.

  For a good example of someone acting through a total disguise, I always want to point to Hugo Weaving in the Guy Fawkes getup from V for Vendetta. I’m not a movie expert, but I think the guy should have at least gotten some discussion of an Oscar nomination for his acting in that role — especially if we can give one to Russell Crowe for Gladiator…sheesh…

  As for the original question of this post, I can’t decide between two characters: Gellert Grendelwald and Salazar Slytherin. Both are dark characters; one seems to have made peace with his life and choices, while the other is left a complete mystery. And I think if I can get Slytherin’s story, then I will probably get some idea of Gryffindor’s, too. Frankly, I think the Slytherin version would be a richer literary experience in light of the established HP canon.

• 41 reyhan // Apr 13, 2008 at 12:51 am

  Dave,

  I was with you until you rolled your virtual eyes at Crowe, whom I find macho-charismatic and totally believable as a Roman general turned slave-gladiator. It’s one of those performances that transcends the plot and the writing (not that the writing is that bad). If someone with Crowe’s authority had played Anakin Skywalker, we would not be having the same discussions.

  BTW, when I Googled David Prowse, I found out that he’d originally been 6′5″ or 6′6″ He “shrunk” down to 6′4″ after his operations.

  And if you want acting through a total disguise, you need look no further than Ralph Fiennes, whether as the unrecognizably disfigured Count Almasy in The English Patient or as Voldemort himself. And his turns as Francis Dolahyde and Spider are not too far off, so deeply does he submerge himself in the twisted psyches of the characters he takes on.

• 42 korg20000bc // Apr 13, 2008 at 6:04 am

  I also liked our Russel as Maximus- did his best with what he had. I did find Joaquin Pheonix less than his usual excellent self, though.

  Maybe Christian Bale or whoever it was who played the Collosus bit part in X-Men would have been a better Anakin.

• 43 revgeorge // Apr 13, 2008 at 9:16 am

  Did Andy Serkis every win any sort of Oscar or other award for his portrayal of Gollum in Jackson’s trilogy? Talk about acting behind a mask. Best thing to come out of that series of movies.

• 44 revgeorge // Apr 13, 2008 at 9:21 am

  Checking out the answer to my own question, I guess he only received critical acclaim but no awards for portraying Gollum, mainly because the Academy proved itself to be as hidebound as most institutions. From Wikipedia,

  “His most memorable and critically acclaimed roles have been Gollum in The Lord of the Rings movie trilogy (2001–03) and Kong in the 2005 version of King Kong, in which he provided the voice and movements for the CGI characters.

  His acclaimed work on the trilogy set off a debate on the legitimacy of CGI-assisted acting. Many critics felt Serkis should have been nominated for an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor for his performance since the movie used his voice, body language, and facial expressions. There is the argument that some of his CGI actions were partially, or in some cases fully animated, without his own movements, but the same can be said for actors in a traditional movie involving CGI. Some believed incorrectly that the Academy ruled that he did not qualify because he never physically appeared onscreen. There is no such prohibition, and in fact Serkis appeared onscreen as Sméagol before he became Gollum in the third film.”

• 45 moody // Apr 29, 2008 at 8:43 pm

  hiho,
  Well it took me a while, I almost voted for Mad Eye of course: hunting down Rosier & loosing a chunck of the nose would make a nice read yet with little HP backgound.
  But Aberforth intrigues me even more. He’s been out in the shadow for quite a while and hardly anyone can image what he really keeps his mouth shut about. mmh Ab (as Neville calls him!) is not really a 2ndary character, IMHO somewhere between the 3rd and 1st row.

  I would not vote for Lilly - I don’t think JKR can explain /love/ better than she did in HP. So I’d consider James&Lilly stories unnecessary background noise - Writing about the founders of Hogwarts, their motivation and stories may be more fruitful..

  With Ab absent from the list, I voted for the story that is most likely a boring one, but I’m counting on interesting surprises: Dudley!!! - He’s been [ab]used for the storie’s sake and did not actually play any part in the HP-books but to increase the contrast between Harry’s magic and muggle world. Yet his story as a Muggle - the fight and acceptance of Harry’s magic world - hints that there’s more to him than a boxer and spoiled prat. Hey, Big-D grew up with “the boy who lived”. Sometimes I wonder what happened to the Dursleys..

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