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	<title>Comments on: Hog&#8217;s Head PubCast #29</title>
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		<title>By: Reyhan</title>
		<link>http://thehogshead.org/hogs-head-pubcast-29-409/comment-page-1/#comment-122391</link>
		<dc:creator>Reyhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last comment: I meant to say &quot;why Snape AK&#039;d Dumbledore&quot; of course. Not Voldemort.

Freudian slip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last comment: I meant to say &#8220;why Snape AK&#8217;d Dumbledore&#8221; of course. Not Voldemort.</p>
<p>Freudian slip.</p>
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		<title>By: Reyhan</title>
		<link>http://thehogshead.org/hogs-head-pubcast-29-409/comment-page-1/#comment-122388</link>
		<dc:creator>Reyhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Travis, I was about to say to Rena and Dave (the Longwinded) that I find Snape&#039;s allegiance and motives not that difficult to discern, but realized that we have been over this ground repeatedly. It never ceases to fascinate - me at least - but the time is almost upon us when all will be revealed.

In anticipation, would you consider setting up a post on which we can all formally record our interpretations and predictions about some of the more compelling questions: Snape&#039;s allegiance, Petunia&#039;s secret, if Harry will cross the veil, if he will die, what the 7 Horcruxes are, how to undo a Horcrux, how Harry got his scar, which of the principals will die, who was present at Godric&#039;s Hollow on Hallowe&#039;en 1981, how Harry got his scar, who is Gryffindor&#039;s heir, was Snape in love with Lily, was Lily in love with Snape, what form does Snape&#039;s Patronus take, how Wormtail will pay his lifedebt to Harry, why Snape has a soft spot for Draco and Mom, who will kill Greyback, how Voldemort will die, why Snape AK&#039;d Voldemort, and  if anyone who has &quot;died&quot; will come back, to list my top 20.

It won&#039;t be the first thing on our minds when we read book 7, but after a while we can come back and look at our predictions and laugh, or crow, or shake our heads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Travis, I was about to say to Rena and Dave (the Longwinded) that I find Snape&#8217;s allegiance and motives not that difficult to discern, but realized that we have been over this ground repeatedly. It never ceases to fascinate &#8211; me at least &#8211; but the time is almost upon us when all will be revealed.</p>
<p>In anticipation, would you consider setting up a post on which we can all formally record our interpretations and predictions about some of the more compelling questions: Snape&#8217;s allegiance, Petunia&#8217;s secret, if Harry will cross the veil, if he will die, what the 7 Horcruxes are, how to undo a Horcrux, how Harry got his scar, which of the principals will die, who was present at Godric&#8217;s Hollow on Hallowe&#8217;en 1981, how Harry got his scar, who is Gryffindor&#8217;s heir, was Snape in love with Lily, was Lily in love with Snape, what form does Snape&#8217;s Patronus take, how Wormtail will pay his lifedebt to Harry, why Snape has a soft spot for Draco and Mom, who will kill Greyback, how Voldemort will die, why Snape AK&#8217;d Voldemort, and  if anyone who has &#8220;died&#8221; will come back, to list my top 20.</p>
<p>It won&#8217;t be the first thing on our minds when we read book 7, but after a while we can come back and look at our predictions and laugh, or crow, or shake our heads.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave, the Longwinded</title>
		<link>http://thehogshead.org/hogs-head-pubcast-29-409/comment-page-1/#comment-122149</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave, the Longwinded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rena, I agree with you.  My wife and I sit and conjecture all the time, as well.

But I always feel a little like we&#039;re intelligence analysts at the CIA trying to decipher Fidel Castro&#039;s intentions based a photograph of him smoking a cigar.  My best guess is still that Snape has his own agenda, but there&#039;s only as much evidence for that (perhaps a little less) than there is for anyone else&#039;s guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rena, I agree with you.  My wife and I sit and conjecture all the time, as well.</p>
<p>But I always feel a little like we&#8217;re intelligence analysts at the CIA trying to decipher Fidel Castro&#8217;s intentions based a photograph of him smoking a cigar.  My best guess is still that Snape has his own agenda, but there&#8217;s only as much evidence for that (perhaps a little less) than there is for anyone else&#8217;s guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Rena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohhh, sorry for the bold text!</description>
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		<title>By: Rena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Dave, the Longwinded , it is true what you say: we &lt;i&gt;know&lt;/i&gt; almost nothing about Snape. One hundred people having read the same books probably â€œknowâ€ one hundred different Snapes. Even his ambiguity is not granted. After the publishing date of the final book JKR could legitimately tell us either â€œWell, he was on Voldemortâ€™s side all the time, didnâ€™t you know that? He told you, he wasâ€ or â€œDumbledore always said he trusted him, so, why didnâ€™t you, too?â€ (However, she isnâ€™t that arrogant.) In either case nobody could complain that there hasnâ€™t been enough evidence.

The reason why I like conjecturing and speculating about Snape, Harry, Dumbledore, Voldemort and all the other characters is that 1. it is fun, and 2. it makes me think about â€“ and sometimes question â€“ my own belief and ethical principals about the opposites and shades of good and evil, love and hate, courage and cowardice, injuries and traumata, body and soul, as well as free will, responsibility, compassion, sacrifice, forgiveness, redemption etc. What is so special about the books is that 1. and 2. work together so very well.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Dave, the Longwinded , it is true what you say: we <i>know</i> almost nothing about Snape. One hundred people having read the same books probably â€œknowâ€ one hundred different Snapes. Even his ambiguity is not granted. After the publishing date of the final book JKR could legitimately tell us either â€œWell, he was on Voldemortâ€™s side all the time, didnâ€™t you know that? He told you, he wasâ€ or â€œDumbledore always said he trusted him, so, why didnâ€™t you, too?â€ (However, she isnâ€™t that arrogant.) In either case nobody could complain that there hasnâ€™t been enough evidence.</p>
<p>The reason why I like conjecturing and speculating about Snape, Harry, Dumbledore, Voldemort and all the other characters is that 1. it is fun, and 2. it makes me think about â€“ and sometimes question â€“ my own belief and ethical principals about the opposites and shades of good and evil, love and hate, courage and cowardice, injuries and traumata, body and soul, as well as free will, responsibility, compassion, sacrifice, forgiveness, redemption etc. What is so special about the books is that 1. and 2. work together so very well.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Dave, the Longwinded</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave, the Longwinded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mia...thanks.  Funny enough, I normally do.  I&#039;m trying to grade some papers and post this at the same time and screwed up.

My students love parenthetical asides, but can&#039;t ever seem to get their in-text citations right...go figure...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mia&#8230;thanks.  Funny enough, I normally do.  I&#8217;m trying to grade some papers and post this at the same time and screwed up.</p>
<p>My students love parenthetical asides, but can&#8217;t ever seem to get their in-text citations right&#8230;go figure&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, it didn&#039;t show up. Use the greater-than and less-than sign instead of the brackets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, it didn&#8217;t show up. Use the greater-than and less-than sign instead of the brackets.</p>
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		<title>By: Mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Dave&lt;/b&gt;, you should use  instead of () to make the html tags work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Dave</b>, you should use  instead of () to make the html tags work.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave, the Longwinded</title>
		<link>http://thehogshead.org/hogs-head-pubcast-29-409/comment-page-1/#comment-120975</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave, the Longwinded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry...don&#039;t know why the html tags didn&#039;t work.  There&#039;s supposed to be some underlinging and italicizing going on there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry&#8230;don&#8217;t know why the html tags didn&#8217;t work.  There&#8217;s supposed to be some underlinging and italicizing going on there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave, the Longwinded</title>
		<link>http://thehogshead.org/hogs-head-pubcast-29-409/comment-page-1/#comment-120974</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave, the Longwinded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, this is why I love Snape&#039;s character.  We feel like we know so much about him, but we really don&#039;t.  Ninety-five percent of the time, he&#039;s as mean, cruel, and nasty as nearly any character in the books, save for a few you could count on one hand.  

So, we all conjecture about him as if we understand him in some fundamental way.  But we know almost nothing about his motives.  The &quot;Snape&#039;s Worst Memory&quot; chapter in (i)HBP(/i) is important, but it doesn&#039;t reveal all that much in and of itself; and there&#039;s very little from other books to provide good, solid context for speculation, especially about Snape&#039;s personal history.  All we really know is that the Marauders picked on him, (i)apparently(/i) quite mercilessly, and that this is (b)a(/b) motivation for his treatment of Harry.  Then, James saves Snape&#039;s life at some point, (i)apparently(/i) making Snape&#039;s hatred that much deeper due to a perceived debt.  But, keep in mind that much of this comes from second and third-hand sources.  

Think of it this way:  The moment that Dumbledore invites Snape back into the fold as both a member of the Order and as a teacher at Hogwarts was probably a moment of great existential choice for Snape.  And we haven&#039;t seen a single second of that event.  And there must be other instances of similar importance in Snape&#039;s life, and all we get is a moment of bullying where the cool kids are picking on the nerdy emo kid.  

I&#039;m not trying to downplay that event, but that can&#039;t (u)the one moment(/u) that defines Snape&#039;s character.  And the event is meant to shed more light on Harry than anything else.  

He&#039;s virtually blank in terms of concrete, clear, empirical details.  

And a note on the Pettigrew family motto:  bear in mind that &quot;sun&quot; and &quot;son&quot; are interlocking symbols in a lot of traditions, one often being a pun playing on the other.  Read it as &quot;Nothing without the (i)son(/i)&quot;, and you get the perfect poetic paraphrase of Peter Pettigrew&#039;s ethical dilemma.  Both Voldemort&#039;s and Harry&#039;s place as sons to differing fathers, mothers, families, and traditions is a theme of primary importance in the books, and it plays quite nicely into Christian themes, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, this is why I love Snape&#8217;s character.  We feel like we know so much about him, but we really don&#8217;t.  Ninety-five percent of the time, he&#8217;s as mean, cruel, and nasty as nearly any character in the books, save for a few you could count on one hand.  </p>
<p>So, we all conjecture about him as if we understand him in some fundamental way.  But we know almost nothing about his motives.  The &#8220;Snape&#8217;s Worst Memory&#8221; chapter in (i)HBP(/i) is important, but it doesn&#8217;t reveal all that much in and of itself; and there&#8217;s very little from other books to provide good, solid context for speculation, especially about Snape&#8217;s personal history.  All we really know is that the Marauders picked on him, (i)apparently(/i) quite mercilessly, and that this is (b)a(/b) motivation for his treatment of Harry.  Then, James saves Snape&#8217;s life at some point, (i)apparently(/i) making Snape&#8217;s hatred that much deeper due to a perceived debt.  But, keep in mind that much of this comes from second and third-hand sources.  </p>
<p>Think of it this way:  The moment that Dumbledore invites Snape back into the fold as both a member of the Order and as a teacher at Hogwarts was probably a moment of great existential choice for Snape.  And we haven&#8217;t seen a single second of that event.  And there must be other instances of similar importance in Snape&#8217;s life, and all we get is a moment of bullying where the cool kids are picking on the nerdy emo kid.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to downplay that event, but that can&#8217;t (u)the one moment(/u) that defines Snape&#8217;s character.  And the event is meant to shed more light on Harry than anything else.  </p>
<p>He&#8217;s virtually blank in terms of concrete, clear, empirical details.  </p>
<p>And a note on the Pettigrew family motto:  bear in mind that &#8220;sun&#8221; and &#8220;son&#8221; are interlocking symbols in a lot of traditions, one often being a pun playing on the other.  Read it as &#8220;Nothing without the (i)son(/i)&#8221;, and you get the perfect poetic paraphrase of Peter Pettigrew&#8217;s ethical dilemma.  Both Voldemort&#8217;s and Harry&#8217;s place as sons to differing fathers, mothers, families, and traditions is a theme of primary importance in the books, and it plays quite nicely into Christian themes, as well.</p>
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