Comments on: Is Voldemort Undead? or How to Lick a Lich http://thehogshead.org/is-voldemort-undead-or-how-to-lick-a-lich-2696/ Harry Potter News and Commentary Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:12:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Davetheshortwinded http://thehogshead.org/is-voldemort-undead-or-how-to-lick-a-lich-2696/comment-page-1/#comment-471591 Davetheshortwinded Sun, 07 Mar 2010 02:39:18 +0000 http://thehogshead.org/?p=2696#comment-471591 Happy to see other Lloyd Alexander fans on this site. If you hunger mightily for more Harry, read L.A.! (that's all folks...gotta live up to my name). Happy to see other Lloyd Alexander fans on this site. If you hunger mightily for more Harry, read L.A.! (that’s all folks…gotta live up to my name).

]]> By: Red Rocker http://thehogshead.org/is-voldemort-undead-or-how-to-lick-a-lich-2696/comment-page-1/#comment-448203 Red Rocker Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:54:49 +0000 http://thehogshead.org/?p=2696#comment-448203 Very interesting post, <b>Korg</b> The idea of wizards secreting their souls - or more commonly, their hearts - in some receptacle that is then hidden in order to ensure their immortality is one I've encountered in various forms of fantasy fiction, but I didn't know it had such a rich history. I was also reminded of the latest fictional use of the idea, in the <i>Pirates of the Caribbean</i> movies, and the quest for Davy Jones' heart. Very interesting post, Korg

The idea of wizards secreting their souls – or more commonly, their hearts – in some receptacle that is then hidden in order to ensure their immortality is one I’ve encountered in various forms of fantasy fiction, but I didn’t know it had such a rich history.

I was also reminded of the latest fictional use of the idea, in the Pirates of the Caribbean movies, and the quest for Davy Jones’ heart.

]]> By: Arabella Figg http://thehogshead.org/is-voldemort-undead-or-how-to-lick-a-lich-2696/comment-page-1/#comment-448114 Arabella Figg Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:35:18 +0000 http://thehogshead.org/?p=2696#comment-448114 Yup. Just call me Dory... Yup. Just call me Dory…

]]> By: Lily Luna http://thehogshead.org/is-voldemort-undead-or-how-to-lick-a-lich-2696/comment-page-1/#comment-448111 Lily Luna Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:06:52 +0000 http://thehogshead.org/?p=2696#comment-448111 Ack, scratch that. I misread/misremembered your sentence, Arabella, even though I had just read it like 1 minute earlier. Ahh, they say the short-term memory is the first to go . . . Ack, scratch that. I misread/misremembered your sentence, Arabella, even though I had just read it like 1 minute earlier. Ahh, they say the short-term memory is the first to go . . .

]]> By: Lily Luna http://thehogshead.org/is-voldemort-undead-or-how-to-lick-a-lich-2696/comment-page-1/#comment-448110 Lily Luna Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:04:10 +0000 http://thehogshead.org/?p=2696#comment-448110 Probably because of the root word "mord" or "mort" meaning "death" (or "bite," depending on the context). Probably because of the root word “mord” or “mort” meaning “death” (or “bite,” depending on the context).

]]> By: Arabella Figg http://thehogshead.org/is-voldemort-undead-or-how-to-lick-a-lich-2696/comment-page-1/#comment-448105 Arabella Figg Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:30:15 +0000 http://thehogshead.org/?p=2696#comment-448105 It seems to me that in much of the limited fantasy reading I've done, the/an evil character has mort or mord in the name. Kind of corny to me, sraight out of The Fantasy Dictionary of Names for Bad Guys. With Prydain we have the mirror element, too. Much shared with HP, although Rowling certainly took it to many higher levels. I never saw The English Patient, so I'm safe there, too! :-) It seems to me that in much of the limited fantasy reading I’ve done, the/an evil character has mort or mord in the name. Kind of corny to me, sraight out of The Fantasy Dictionary of Names for Bad Guys.

With Prydain we have the mirror element, too. Much shared with HP, although Rowling certainly took it to many higher levels.

I never saw The English Patient, so I’m safe there, too! :-)

]]> By: Lily Luna http://thehogshead.org/is-voldemort-undead-or-how-to-lick-a-lich-2696/comment-page-1/#comment-448045 Lily Luna Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:41:01 +0000 http://thehogshead.org/?p=2696#comment-448045 Thanks, Arabella, for providing the details. I had been thinking that the wizards name was something like Morda, but I was afraid I was just thinking of Mordred of Arthurian legend, which the name is probably based on. I attended a lecture at Azkatraz on Arthurian legend/legendary objects and their relation to HP/hallows/horcruxes and realized during the course of the lecture that much of the Prydain series was based on those legends, such as the Black Cauldron which produces Cauldron Born (like inferi) and which can be destroyed only if a living person willingly throws himself into it knowing he will die. I made the mistake of renting the movie to which you referred, Arabella. Although titled The Black Cauldron, it was a mash of both The Book of Three and The Black Cauldron but horribly done and not true at all to the books. One of the few movies I truly regret renting and watching (along with The English Patient, but we've been over that before *grin*). Thanks, Arabella, for providing the details. I had been thinking that the wizards name was something like Morda, but I was afraid I was just thinking of Mordred of Arthurian legend, which the name is probably based on. I attended a lecture at Azkatraz on Arthurian legend/legendary objects and their relation to HP/hallows/horcruxes and realized during the course of the lecture that much of the Prydain series was based on those legends, such as the Black Cauldron which produces Cauldron Born (like inferi) and which can be destroyed only if a living person willingly throws himself into it knowing he will die. I made the mistake of renting the movie to which you referred, Arabella. Although titled The Black Cauldron, it was a mash of both The Book of Three and The Black Cauldron but horribly done and not true at all to the books. One of the few movies I truly regret renting and watching (along with The English Patient, but we’ve been over that before *grin*).

]]> By: Arabella Figg http://thehogshead.org/is-voldemort-undead-or-how-to-lick-a-lich-2696/comment-page-1/#comment-448029 Arabella Figg Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:16:32 +0000 http://thehogshead.org/?p=2696#comment-448029 Korg, the Prydain books are really wonderful; they're loosely based on Welsh mythology. The first book, The Book of Three, is my least favorite. Disney made an execrable animated film of the second, The Black Cauldron, in the early '80s, which I avoided. As with HP, the characters are great, the books both funny and moving, they include classic mythic elements, and choice is a huge theme. The omnibus edition, The Prydain Chronicles, includes a pronunciation guide and some backstory short stories, originally published as a separate collection; unfortunately, Coll and His White Pig isn't included, but perhaps you can get it elsewhere. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Prydain Chronicles filmed (well) now. Korg, the Prydain books are really wonderful; they’re loosely based on Welsh mythology. The first book, The Book of Three, is my least favorite. Disney made an execrable animated film of the second, The Black Cauldron, in the early ’80s, which I avoided.

As with HP, the characters are great, the books both funny and moving, they include classic mythic elements, and choice is a huge theme. The omnibus edition, The Prydain Chronicles, includes a pronunciation guide and some backstory short stories, originally published as a separate collection; unfortunately, Coll and His White Pig isn’t included, but perhaps you can get it elsewhere.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Prydain Chronicles filmed (well) now.

]]> By: SPT http://thehogshead.org/is-voldemort-undead-or-how-to-lick-a-lich-2696/comment-page-1/#comment-447984 SPT Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:04:52 +0000 http://thehogshead.org/?p=2696#comment-447984 Perhaps by coincidence (or perhaps not) the Slytherin necklace is described as being "the size of a chicken's egg". Perhaps by coincidence (or perhaps not) the Slytherin necklace is described as being “the size of a chicken’s egg”.

]]> By: korg20000bc http://thehogshead.org/is-voldemort-undead-or-how-to-lick-a-lich-2696/comment-page-1/#comment-447980 korg20000bc Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:25:29 +0000 http://thehogshead.org/?p=2696#comment-447980 Thanks Frika, The Warlock's Hairy Heart in Beedle the Bard is another interesting look at the horcrux/phalacterly device. I've never read any of Lloyd Alexander's stuff but it sounds interesting. It's funny how, back in the day, we were all discussing if Harry is a horcrux -over a thousand comments on the post. A lot of people were wondering if horcruxes were used up whenever voldemort might be slain. Arabella Figg- "Fascinating post, Korg. Who knew D&D was so educational, even a gateway to great literature?" It was certainly educational for me and has led me to a whole rangeof classic literature. Although it wasn't D&D that started it. It was a game on the Texas Instruments TI99/4A called Tunnels of Doom. My brother got it during the Christmas holidays an about 1982. Awesome. That same summer my friend got D&D for Christmas. Shortly after that I started on the Narnia series beginning with the Silver Chair because of the cover artwork. Thanks Frika,
The Warlock’s Hairy Heart in Beedle the Bard is another interesting look at the horcrux/phalacterly device.
I’ve never read any of Lloyd Alexander’s stuff but it sounds interesting. It’s funny how, back in the day, we were all discussing if Harry is a horcrux -over a thousand comments on the post. A lot of people were wondering if horcruxes were used up whenever voldemort might be slain.

Arabella Figg- “Fascinating post, Korg. Who knew D&D was so educational, even a gateway to great literature?”

It was certainly educational for me and has led me to a whole rangeof classic literature. Although it wasn’t D&D that started it. It was a game on the Texas Instruments TI99/4A called Tunnels of Doom. My brother got it during the Christmas holidays an about 1982. Awesome. That same summer my friend got D&D for Christmas. Shortly after that I started on the Narnia series beginning with the Silver Chair because of the cover artwork.

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