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	<title>Comments on: Merope Gaunt and the Paradox of Evil and Choice</title>
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		<title>By: Vera Óvári</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vera Óvári</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I felt so sorry, about Merope, when I heard about her!!She is one of my favotite characters.
Iknow, that it was wrong ,that she gave Tom a love potion, but she had no one, and she was desperate. I can understand her perfectly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I felt so sorry, about Merope, when I heard about her!!She is one of my favotite characters.<br />
Iknow, that it was wrong ,that she gave Tom a love potion, but she had no one, and she was desperate. I can understand her perfectly.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 00:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!  Ever since the last book, I&#039;ve been thinking about Voldemort&#039;s end.

It was strange.  Voldemort showed no...desire to actually believe Harry, and made his own downfall.  If he hadn&#039;t tried to still kill Harry after Harry said it wasn&#039;t going to work, he wouldn&#039;t be dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!  Ever since the last book, I&#8217;ve been thinking about Voldemort&#8217;s end.</p>
<p>It was strange.  Voldemort showed no&#8230;desire to actually believe Harry, and made his own downfall.  If he hadn&#8217;t tried to still kill Harry after Harry said it wasn&#8217;t going to work, he wouldn&#8217;t be dead.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 01:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Mia. I&#039;ve done a good bit of thinking and writing about this theme in the series since the last book. I am getting more and more eager to see where Rowling is going with all of this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Mia. I&#8217;ve done a good bit of thinking and writing about this theme in the series since the last book. I am getting more and more eager to see where Rowling is going with all of this!</p>
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		<title>By: Mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Beth&lt;/b&gt;, thatâ€™s a brilliant analysis, and I agree with you. Surely, no-one is an island and our choices may affect others in unexpected ways, just like weâ€™re affected by their choices. Rowling certainly doesnâ€™t present a simplistic view, which would be problematic and dangerous especially when it comes to understanding the theological concepts youâ€™ve mentioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Beth</b>, thatâ€™s a brilliant analysis, and I agree with you. Surely, no-one is an island and our choices may affect others in unexpected ways, just like weâ€™re affected by their choices. Rowling certainly doesnâ€™t present a simplistic view, which would be problematic and dangerous especially when it comes to understanding the theological concepts youâ€™ve mentioned.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m coming late to this discussion, but enjoying it enormously. I find it one of the more fascinating themes in the series.

Thinking about Dumbledore&#039;s famous quote: &quot;It&#039;s our choices, Harry...&quot; I have always found it interesting that he uses the plural construction. It&#039;s true that Dumbledore tends to use language that way a good bit (a dramatic use of the &quot;royal we&quot;!) but I still find it notable. He doesn&#039;t say (and he could have said) &quot;Harry, it&#039;s your choices that make you who you are.&quot; He says &quot;our choices&quot; and &quot;us.&quot; 

I think Dumbledore understands at a very deep level just how interdependent we all are. It&#039;s not as easy as debating nature versus nurture, because both are always involved. We&#039;re encultured beings, and we&#039;re born into stories that are already in progress. So of course choices made before us, especially huge, life-changing choices like the ones made by Lily and Merope, leave their mark (and I use that phrase intentionally) on their children. Does that dictate what their children will do, or enslave them to fate? Of course not. But I think choices from the previous generation can affect one&#039;s deepest sense of self.  Harry doesn&#039;t know until he&#039;s 11 that his mother sacrificed herself to try to save him, but her love has been an active, acting force in his life nonetheless. The story he entered mid-stream was a story that marked him as &quot;a beloved son worth dying for.&quot; Tom Riddle, on the other hand, was not marked by that kind of life. Because of choices made before him, some of them going back generations, his deepest, unconscious sense of self would be &quot;I&#039;m not worth living for. I&#039;ve always been alone.&quot;  That is bound to affect his own choices, though again, doesn&#039;t dictate them. For one thing, he is still (at least early on) fully human, which means grace and mercy can work upon him and draw him, whether or not he chooses to respond to them.

It strikes me again and again how the themes of sin, grace and mercy play out in these stories, even though those specific terms aren&#039;t used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m coming late to this discussion, but enjoying it enormously. I find it one of the more fascinating themes in the series.</p>
<p>Thinking about Dumbledore&#8217;s famous quote: &#8220;It&#8217;s our choices, Harry&#8230;&#8221; I have always found it interesting that he uses the plural construction. It&#8217;s true that Dumbledore tends to use language that way a good bit (a dramatic use of the &#8220;royal we&#8221;!) but I still find it notable. He doesn&#8217;t say (and he could have said) &#8220;Harry, it&#8217;s your choices that make you who you are.&#8221; He says &#8220;our choices&#8221; and &#8220;us.&#8221; </p>
<p>I think Dumbledore understands at a very deep level just how interdependent we all are. It&#8217;s not as easy as debating nature versus nurture, because both are always involved. We&#8217;re encultured beings, and we&#8217;re born into stories that are already in progress. So of course choices made before us, especially huge, life-changing choices like the ones made by Lily and Merope, leave their mark (and I use that phrase intentionally) on their children. Does that dictate what their children will do, or enslave them to fate? Of course not. But I think choices from the previous generation can affect one&#8217;s deepest sense of self.  Harry doesn&#8217;t know until he&#8217;s 11 that his mother sacrificed herself to try to save him, but her love has been an active, acting force in his life nonetheless. The story he entered mid-stream was a story that marked him as &#8220;a beloved son worth dying for.&#8221; Tom Riddle, on the other hand, was not marked by that kind of life. Because of choices made before him, some of them going back generations, his deepest, unconscious sense of self would be &#8220;I&#8217;m not worth living for. I&#8217;ve always been alone.&#8221;  That is bound to affect his own choices, though again, doesn&#8217;t dictate them. For one thing, he is still (at least early on) fully human, which means grace and mercy can work upon him and draw him, whether or not he chooses to respond to them.</p>
<p>It strikes me again and again how the themes of sin, grace and mercy play out in these stories, even though those specific terms aren&#8217;t used.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave the Longwinded</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave the Longwinded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 16:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not suggesting a specific genetic link between Harry and Voldemort.  As someone said above, looking at a fantasy world through empirical science is...tricky...  After all, how much rule could genetics have in a world where people routinely defy the laws of Newtonian physics with nothing more than a well polished broomstick?  

But there has to be some significance to the fact that Voldemort now has something of Harry&#039;s blood running through him.  The psychic link they share in &lt;i&gt;OotP&lt;/i&gt; just isn&#039;t developed enough for me to buy that&#039;s all there is to it.  

And blood plays a role in a number of different epic heroic myths and salvation stories.  It&#039;s a symbol of a person&#039;s self, the literal substance that contains a person, and sometimes his/her worth.  The books put a lot of emphasis on the mudblood/pureblood divide, even if only to point out how ridiculous the distinction is.  

Choosing Harry (again) to be one substance from which he rebirths himself has to come back to haunt Voldemort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting a specific genetic link between Harry and Voldemort.  As someone said above, looking at a fantasy world through empirical science is&#8230;tricky&#8230;  After all, how much rule could genetics have in a world where people routinely defy the laws of Newtonian physics with nothing more than a well polished broomstick?  </p>
<p>But there has to be some significance to the fact that Voldemort now has something of Harry&#8217;s blood running through him.  The psychic link they share in <i>OotP</i> just isn&#8217;t developed enough for me to buy that&#8217;s all there is to it.  </p>
<p>And blood plays a role in a number of different epic heroic myths and salvation stories.  It&#8217;s a symbol of a person&#8217;s self, the literal substance that contains a person, and sometimes his/her worth.  The books put a lot of emphasis on the mudblood/pureblood divide, even if only to point out how ridiculous the distinction is.  </p>
<p>Choosing Harry (again) to be one substance from which he rebirths himself has to come back to haunt Voldemort.</p>
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		<title>By: Reyhan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reyhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mia, this takes me back to a theory I floated some time ago. Harry will  transcend his mortal fear of death through his love for people who have died (Lily, James, Sirius, Dumbledore and maybe even one more beloved friend). He will no longer fear death and be willing to die.  That will make him impervious to the power of Voldemort. If Voldemort tried to possess him under those conditions, he would probably be destroyed. Especially if there were no remaining Horcruxes to keep him going.

However, this doesn&#039;t answer the puzzle of the blood thing. And somehow I don&#039;t think it&#039;s meaning is metaphorical. Magical, certainly, but not metaphorical. 

How about this redemption scenario: Harry destroys the remaining Horcruxes. In the process one more person dies, someone who is very close to his heart, closer even than Sirius Black or DD (sorry Ron, I think the writing&#039;s been on the wall ever since that game of wizard&#039;s chess). When that person dies, Harry finally transcends his fear of death because he has as many people he loves on the other side of the veil as on this.  Someone (my candidate is Snape but of course by that time they&#039;ll be lining up to do the honours) AKs Voldemort. Voldemort tries to jump into Harry. And finds that he can&#039;t. And disappears into a wisp of smoke, sort of like Saruman, which drifts past the veil, never to be seen again.

In writing this I realize that I&#039;m sort of supporting the Harry as the last Horcrux theory, which I don&#039;t believe in. I also don&#039;t leave too much room for redemption.  I also don&#039;t account for the dragon flight. In fact, there are more gaps than answers in this theory. 

These are the things I am certain of will happen.  A beloved friend will die. Harry will transcend his mortal fear of death. Voldemort will be annihilated. Harry will live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mia, this takes me back to a theory I floated some time ago. Harry will  transcend his mortal fear of death through his love for people who have died (Lily, James, Sirius, Dumbledore and maybe even one more beloved friend). He will no longer fear death and be willing to die.  That will make him impervious to the power of Voldemort. If Voldemort tried to possess him under those conditions, he would probably be destroyed. Especially if there were no remaining Horcruxes to keep him going.</p>
<p>However, this doesn&#8217;t answer the puzzle of the blood thing. And somehow I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s meaning is metaphorical. Magical, certainly, but not metaphorical. </p>
<p>How about this redemption scenario: Harry destroys the remaining Horcruxes. In the process one more person dies, someone who is very close to his heart, closer even than Sirius Black or DD (sorry Ron, I think the writing&#8217;s been on the wall ever since that game of wizard&#8217;s chess). When that person dies, Harry finally transcends his fear of death because he has as many people he loves on the other side of the veil as on this.  Someone (my candidate is Snape but of course by that time they&#8217;ll be lining up to do the honours) AKs Voldemort. Voldemort tries to jump into Harry. And finds that he can&#8217;t. And disappears into a wisp of smoke, sort of like Saruman, which drifts past the veil, never to be seen again.</p>
<p>In writing this I realize that I&#8217;m sort of supporting the Harry as the last Horcrux theory, which I don&#8217;t believe in. I also don&#8217;t leave too much room for redemption.  I also don&#8217;t account for the dragon flight. In fact, there are more gaps than answers in this theory. </p>
<p>These are the things I am certain of will happen.  A beloved friend will die. Harry will transcend his mortal fear of death. Voldemort will be annihilated. Harry will live.</p>
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		<title>By: Mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reyhan, my mistake, I probably didnâ€™t make my point very clearly.

I think that Voldemort couldnâ€™t exist in the presence of love. Like Dumbledore said, he couldnâ€™t reside in a body that was so full of it. He can live on Harryâ€™s blood, biologically, but he cannot bear his love. I suppose the meaning of blood in the series has to be understood in a metaphorical sense. 

Voldemort would never see the world through Harryâ€™s eyes, even if he was able to possess him, I believe. He couldnâ€™t share his compassion and innocence, only love could do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reyhan, my mistake, I probably didnâ€™t make my point very clearly.</p>
<p>I think that Voldemort couldnâ€™t exist in the presence of love. Like Dumbledore said, he couldnâ€™t reside in a body that was so full of it. He can live on Harryâ€™s blood, biologically, but he cannot bear his love. I suppose the meaning of blood in the series has to be understood in a metaphorical sense. </p>
<p>Voldemort would never see the world through Harryâ€™s eyes, even if he was able to possess him, I believe. He couldnâ€™t share his compassion and innocence, only love could do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Reyhan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reyhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mia, after re-reading my comment, I realized that I missed the point of your comment: can there be a link between the shared blood and Voldemort&#039;s possible, if highly improbable redemption?

One possibility, which Dave the Longwinded alludes to, is that the blood thing has intensified the bond between them, and that Voldemort may be redeemed by literally seeing the world through Harry&#039;s eyes.

Well, my spin on the same possibility is that Voldemort would be annihilated by seeing the world through Harry&#039;s eyes, especially if Harry were to cross the veil and in some sense, die.

However, I can&#039;t quite go with that theory either. Voldemort spends a lot of time in Harry&#039;s head in OotP. Then comes the moment when Harry thinks longingly of death because he can see his beloved godfather, and presto, Voldemort vanishes. And he never comes back. It almost looks to me like for some reason, Voldemort can&#039;t possess Harry any more. My theory about this is that Voldemort can&#039;t bear Harry&#039;s lack of fear about death. But regardless of the cause, the connection just isn&#039;t there in HBP.

It&#039;s a bit of a paradox. He&#039;s got Harry&#039;s blood. But he can&#039;t get into Harry&#039;s mind. 

I&#039;m stumped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mia, after re-reading my comment, I realized that I missed the point of your comment: can there be a link between the shared blood and Voldemort&#8217;s possible, if highly improbable redemption?</p>
<p>One possibility, which Dave the Longwinded alludes to, is that the blood thing has intensified the bond between them, and that Voldemort may be redeemed by literally seeing the world through Harry&#8217;s eyes.</p>
<p>Well, my spin on the same possibility is that Voldemort would be annihilated by seeing the world through Harry&#8217;s eyes, especially if Harry were to cross the veil and in some sense, die.</p>
<p>However, I can&#8217;t quite go with that theory either. Voldemort spends a lot of time in Harry&#8217;s head in OotP. Then comes the moment when Harry thinks longingly of death because he can see his beloved godfather, and presto, Voldemort vanishes. And he never comes back. It almost looks to me like for some reason, Voldemort can&#8217;t possess Harry any more. My theory about this is that Voldemort can&#8217;t bear Harry&#8217;s lack of fear about death. But regardless of the cause, the connection just isn&#8217;t there in HBP.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit of a paradox. He&#8217;s got Harry&#8217;s blood. But he can&#8217;t get into Harry&#8217;s mind. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m stumped.</p>
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		<title>By: Mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thatâ€™s true, Reyhan. I still think that Voldemort couldnâ€™t inherit Harryâ€™s loving nature by stealing his blood. What he did in order to restore his body was complete and utter blasphemy, a perversion of all that is good and true. It doesnâ€™t seem right to me that this evil act could possibly open a way of redemption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thatâ€™s true, Reyhan. I still think that Voldemort couldnâ€™t inherit Harryâ€™s loving nature by stealing his blood. What he did in order to restore his body was complete and utter blasphemy, a perversion of all that is good and true. It doesnâ€™t seem right to me that this evil act could possibly open a way of redemption.</p>
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